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	<title>Comments on: A Child&#8217;s Response to Her Absent Father</title>
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		<title>By: Saddened</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saddened</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It think it is unfortunate that so many fathers here have posted such nasty things about mothers. While I agree that there are many women who make it hard for fathers to share in raising their children, there are also many fathers who simply find it easier not to be involved. Why that it, I don&#039;t know. My ex-husband is very bitter about my deicision to end our marriage. It was an unhealthy and unhappy marriage and an unhealthy household for the children. Their father is very well off. His focus is money. Parenting has never been something he&#039;s coped well with. When we separated if offered to share custody. He did not want to. He only wannted to have the kids every second weekend. He lives close to them yet hardly ever sees them. I encourage him and ask hium to see his children more often and he says no. He turns off his phone so that our daughter will not be able to call him. The kids don&#039;t like going there because he ignores them all weekend. They come home with bruises and scrapes because they fight to get his attention. I tell him when all of the kids activities and special events are, I invite him to their birthdays. I make it clear that he should feel comfortable to participate at any time. He is not interested. He never shows up. If there&#039;s a day both he and the kids are off and I have to work, I offer him to spend the day with him and he says no. I really do feel that the best for our children is to spend time with both of their paarents and to behave as adults and really but the well-being of the children first. He tells me the kids are fine and that they havea wonderful relationship.... yet I have to pick them up almost everytime they sleep there because they don&#039;t want to be with him because he&#039;s on his computer. He sees parenting as a shore. I am not a saint. Being a single parent requires planning but to be honest, I don&#039;t find it that hard. I make the kids the priority and organize my life around that. The most difficult part is trying to explain to my children why they &quot;can&#039;t&quot; see their dad. It&#039;s not that they can&#039;t see... he says NO all the time. To the dads who do want to spend thime with their children and can&#039;t, then I feel very sorry for you and your children. That&#039;s wrong but please don&#039;t discount the fact that just like some women prevent dads from seeing their kids, there are some women who make every effort to help their children have a strong and meaningful bond with their fathers and simply have no cooperation from the dads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It think it is unfortunate that so many fathers here have posted such nasty things about mothers. While I agree that there are many women who make it hard for fathers to share in raising their children, there are also many fathers who simply find it easier not to be involved. Why that it, I don&#8217;t know. My ex-husband is very bitter about my deicision to end our marriage. It was an unhealthy and unhappy marriage and an unhealthy household for the children. Their father is very well off. His focus is money. Parenting has never been something he&#8217;s coped well with. When we separated if offered to share custody. He did not want to. He only wannted to have the kids every second weekend. He lives close to them yet hardly ever sees them. I encourage him and ask hium to see his children more often and he says no. He turns off his phone so that our daughter will not be able to call him. The kids don&#8217;t like going there because he ignores them all weekend. They come home with bruises and scrapes because they fight to get his attention. I tell him when all of the kids activities and special events are, I invite him to their birthdays. I make it clear that he should feel comfortable to participate at any time. He is not interested. He never shows up. If there&#8217;s a day both he and the kids are off and I have to work, I offer him to spend the day with him and he says no. I really do feel that the best for our children is to spend time with both of their paarents and to behave as adults and really but the well-being of the children first. He tells me the kids are fine and that they havea wonderful relationship&#8230;. yet I have to pick them up almost everytime they sleep there because they don&#8217;t want to be with him because he&#8217;s on his computer. He sees parenting as a shore. I am not a saint. Being a single parent requires planning but to be honest, I don&#8217;t find it that hard. I make the kids the priority and organize my life around that. The most difficult part is trying to explain to my children why they &#8220;can&#8217;t&#8221; see their dad. It&#8217;s not that they can&#8217;t see&#8230; he says NO all the time. To the dads who do want to spend thime with their children and can&#8217;t, then I feel very sorry for you and your children. That&#8217;s wrong but please don&#8217;t discount the fact that just like some women prevent dads from seeing their kids, there are some women who make every effort to help their children have a strong and meaningful bond with their fathers and simply have no cooperation from the dads.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ stillhere,

Sorry for the typos in the last post for #40. Hope it makes sense.

About the Christian Church, the monster I knew, attempted to use a church to communicate in my case too, some woman travelled to my place to hunt me down and convince me to drop the criminal charges. I was blown away at how much they thought he was such a nice man and that I was some vindictive woman trying to bring this guy down for no reason..Ugh!.. 

That also helped to contribute to my loss in faith regarding church going people and how easy it is for master manipulators to fool them too, gosh can people really be safe anywhere? Don&#039;t expect to find it there, with events like this taking place!

You made me laugh, when you said my posts sound crazy to those who don&#039;t understand, because I agree, and thanks to those as well as yourself who validated my statements, because if it weren&#039;t for those strangers to come forward, then that was the risk I had to face, and now, I am relieved that I spoke out. 

I only wish, I could have found such a post,  about certain individuals when I was in peril, I had no answers, no leads, no clue&#039;s, no relief, no support. Everything was blank, evil, new in a dangerous, empty, confusing and scary way, and my only mission after this experience was to get the word out to others, so no one else will suffer the way the rest of the victims have.


(stillhere) your detail is an exact reflection of the experience I had. I wondered for so long if anyone else had the exact same experience, watching an official, pastor, judge etc,., fall for this mess, leading to more victimization and injustice. I have seen the justice system, friends, family and community take the side of predators too often. 

Your post has helped and brought much comfort  realizing there are others living in and witnessing the same type of nightmare in our society. It is more common than most want to believe.

I truly found some hope in humanity from reading your statement, it is very real to me and based on your reply it brings peace of mind knowing someone else out there can identify with the same experience.

I can&#039;t thank you enough! 

@ will, same regards and thanks for sharing as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ stillhere,</p>
<p>Sorry for the typos in the last post for #40. Hope it makes sense.</p>
<p>About the Christian Church, the monster I knew, attempted to use a church to communicate in my case too, some woman travelled to my place to hunt me down and convince me to drop the criminal charges. I was blown away at how much they thought he was such a nice man and that I was some vindictive woman trying to bring this guy down for no reason..Ugh!.. </p>
<p>That also helped to contribute to my loss in faith regarding church going people and how easy it is for master manipulators to fool them too, gosh can people really be safe anywhere? Don&#8217;t expect to find it there, with events like this taking place!</p>
<p>You made me laugh, when you said my posts sound crazy to those who don&#8217;t understand, because I agree, and thanks to those as well as yourself who validated my statements, because if it weren&#8217;t for those strangers to come forward, then that was the risk I had to face, and now, I am relieved that I spoke out. </p>
<p>I only wish, I could have found such a post,  about certain individuals when I was in peril, I had no answers, no leads, no clue&#8217;s, no relief, no support. Everything was blank, evil, new in a dangerous, empty, confusing and scary way, and my only mission after this experience was to get the word out to others, so no one else will suffer the way the rest of the victims have.</p>
<p>(stillhere) your detail is an exact reflection of the experience I had. I wondered for so long if anyone else had the exact same experience, watching an official, pastor, judge etc,., fall for this mess, leading to more victimization and injustice. I have seen the justice system, friends, family and community take the side of predators too often. </p>
<p>Your post has helped and brought much comfort  realizing there are others living in and witnessing the same type of nightmare in our society. It is more common than most want to believe.</p>
<p>I truly found some hope in humanity from reading your statement, it is very real to me and based on your reply it brings peace of mind knowing someone else out there can identify with the same experience.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t thank you enough! </p>
<p>@ will, same regards and thanks for sharing as well!</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://www.divorcewithoutdishonor.com/2008/02/06/a-childs-response-to-her-absent-father/comment-page-1/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ (will) #37,#38, and (stillhere) #39,

Thank you both for posting. You have brought great relief and understanding.

Best Regards to both of you!

@ stillhere, my jaw literally dropped when I read your reply.  I makes total sense and I know that personality type well. I hope that one day, this negative personality will somehow get permanently erased from your world and you can have your life, privacy and peace of mind back.

That Pastor needs serious psychology training, or who knows, he may be a N/P too? After all, he does lead and church, influences and takes peoples money, tells them what they want to hear and most likely lives in a nicer home, drives and fancier car and so many people are being influenced by these Pastors etc.,.

 Very sad:( The people attending their churches are all like little weak followers and easily brainwashed, having no idea he supports a dangerous person like your childs father, now that is a shameful thing unknown to the little lambs who attend his services each week..Forgive me for speaking that way, but it&#039;s true in so many cases. This is why I don&#039;t attend church. I am no atheist, but I can&#039;t see myself following the influence of another man or woman for direction, after dealing with what I have, I see mankind in  different light and try hard to make my own decisions, lead a decent life, stay educated and informed and do the best I can, I am not perfect, but use the wisdom gained to stay clear of bad situations, minus the manipulation and deception of others..;-) Been there, done that, never again!  I learned the hard way too..

I wish you all the best!

Can&#039;t thank you enough for your posts and messages too:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ (will) #37,#38, and (stillhere) #39,</p>
<p>Thank you both for posting. You have brought great relief and understanding.</p>
<p>Best Regards to both of you!</p>
<p>@ stillhere, my jaw literally dropped when I read your reply.  I makes total sense and I know that personality type well. I hope that one day, this negative personality will somehow get permanently erased from your world and you can have your life, privacy and peace of mind back.</p>
<p>That Pastor needs serious psychology training, or who knows, he may be a N/P too? After all, he does lead and church, influences and takes peoples money, tells them what they want to hear and most likely lives in a nicer home, drives and fancier car and so many people are being influenced by these Pastors etc.,.</p>
<p> Very sad:( The people attending their churches are all like little weak followers and easily brainwashed, having no idea he supports a dangerous person like your childs father, now that is a shameful thing unknown to the little lambs who attend his services each week..Forgive me for speaking that way, but it&#8217;s true in so many cases. This is why I don&#8217;t attend church. I am no atheist, but I can&#8217;t see myself following the influence of another man or woman for direction, after dealing with what I have, I see mankind in  different light and try hard to make my own decisions, lead a decent life, stay educated and informed and do the best I can, I am not perfect, but use the wisdom gained to stay clear of bad situations, minus the manipulation and deception of others..;-) Been there, done that, never again!  I learned the hard way too..</p>
<p>I wish you all the best!</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t thank you enough for your posts and messages too:)</p>
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		<title>By: stillhere</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillhere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunshine, When I read your first post, I related completely! I have lived what you are speaking of and am currently in court against a monster diagnosed with the personality disorders mentioned.  I have a 10+ year old beautiful daughter who has been spared his insanity but he filed against me from prison and was released 8/31/09! The courts do not understand the danger and he is the bio father. Your post sounds crazy to the people who have never come across these types and thank God others validated on this site your story. I am so scared for my daughter.  I know this man will stop at nothing and enjoy taking my daughter only to smile at me as he drops her off knowing he has done what he wants with her and I cannot do anything!  I am no dummy.  I am a business owner and a good person so those who think it only happens to those that deserve it, should think again.  Your words ring so true as it came from his own mouth &quot;he can spot the women who are &#039;good&#039; and the ones who won&#039;t say no and he uses them&quot;. It was weird reading your words.  Only those who have dealt with these individuals really know as it seems it cannot be to those who haven&#039;t.  He has this christian forgiving church backing him and he is laughing all the way.  It is unbelievable.  I said something wrong to him after a while of no contact but I forgot the dynamics of this type.  He sucked the life out of me and the peace and safety from my existence that so many take for granted as a right.  Evil monster is right.  If the devil was ever here on earth, it is through these men. (women too). He looks good.  He is a master manipulator.  He has threatened to murder me and my child but &quot;it was so long ago, it is irrelevent since the pastor will vouch he is a changed man&quot;.  Funny how he became the prison chaplin two months before being released just to put the cherry on top of the game.  I have been told I am the strongest woman friends have ever met but I am on my knees.  I hope my body and mind holds out for the sake of my daughter.  I also hope there is a special place in hell for these types.  I cannot bear to think there isn&#039;t since he is getting away with this here on earth.  A police officer tried to warn me when he came to my house. He said &quot;PLEASE don&#039;t fall for this!  This is a master manipulator and he is good.  He will stop at nothing as you are the best thing he will ever come across and I fear for you and your daughters safety.&quot; I took heed to his warning but 10+ years later he is wanting custody and visitation of this child. UGH!  May we all wave that magic wand and be cleaned of the impurity these parasites bestowed upon us......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunshine, When I read your first post, I related completely! I have lived what you are speaking of and am currently in court against a monster diagnosed with the personality disorders mentioned.  I have a 10+ year old beautiful daughter who has been spared his insanity but he filed against me from prison and was released 8/31/09! The courts do not understand the danger and he is the bio father. Your post sounds crazy to the people who have never come across these types and thank God others validated on this site your story. I am so scared for my daughter.  I know this man will stop at nothing and enjoy taking my daughter only to smile at me as he drops her off knowing he has done what he wants with her and I cannot do anything!  I am no dummy.  I am a business owner and a good person so those who think it only happens to those that deserve it, should think again.  Your words ring so true as it came from his own mouth &#8220;he can spot the women who are &#8216;good&#8217; and the ones who won&#8217;t say no and he uses them&#8221;. It was weird reading your words.  Only those who have dealt with these individuals really know as it seems it cannot be to those who haven&#8217;t.  He has this christian forgiving church backing him and he is laughing all the way.  It is unbelievable.  I said something wrong to him after a while of no contact but I forgot the dynamics of this type.  He sucked the life out of me and the peace and safety from my existence that so many take for granted as a right.  Evil monster is right.  If the devil was ever here on earth, it is through these men. (women too). He looks good.  He is a master manipulator.  He has threatened to murder me and my child but &#8220;it was so long ago, it is irrelevent since the pastor will vouch he is a changed man&#8221;.  Funny how he became the prison chaplin two months before being released just to put the cherry on top of the game.  I have been told I am the strongest woman friends have ever met but I am on my knees.  I hope my body and mind holds out for the sake of my daughter.  I also hope there is a special place in hell for these types.  I cannot bear to think there isn&#8217;t since he is getting away with this here on earth.  A police officer tried to warn me when he came to my house. He said &#8220;PLEASE don&#8217;t fall for this!  This is a master manipulator and he is good.  He will stop at nothing as you are the best thing he will ever come across and I fear for you and your daughters safety.&#8221; I took heed to his warning but 10+ years later he is wanting custody and visitation of this child. UGH!  May we all wave that magic wand and be cleaned of the impurity these parasites bestowed upon us&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God&#039;s strength to all of you. My father beat the bejeezus out of my mom for years until I stopped him. He beat me repeatedly as a little boy, putting welts all over me and making me piss blood when I was in the fourth grade from the beating I took.

And when he was old and weak, I took care of him. I managed all his affairs and kept his rotten family from trying to steal his money-- money that I needed to pay for his SNF care.

I also wanted the SOB to know who was the better man on his way to a toasty afterlife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God&#8217;s strength to all of you. My father beat the bejeezus out of my mom for years until I stopped him. He beat me repeatedly as a little boy, putting welts all over me and making me piss blood when I was in the fourth grade from the beating I took.</p>
<p>And when he was old and weak, I took care of him. I managed all his affairs and kept his rotten family from trying to steal his money&#8211; money that I needed to pay for his SNF care.</p>
<p>I also wanted the SOB to know who was the better man on his way to a toasty afterlife.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings, Sunshine! Glad you reached out to me. Check your email. : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings, Sunshine! Glad you reached out to me. Check your email. : )</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ polly #31, My advice to you is to go online and google, &quot;Sociopath&quot;, or NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder). This may help you understand the type of person your father is, and help you on your road to healing. He obviously is very disconnected and cannot bond with you. 

Anyone can reproduce and make a baby, but actually deciding to parent them is an entirely separate issue. You may  not realize it, but your dad may be doing you a big favor by not being in your life, because if he was a devoted, good influence, he would have been present for you. 

This does not make you less of a person, although many kids feel that way for life once a parent ignores them. Don&#039;t be angry with him, just keep going, because that&#039;s the only choice you have. He is who he is and it&#039;s that simple.

 He was not a parent, but only a sperm donor. There are many people who walk in your shoes out there, this is very common, and I am not excusing it either, but want to say, don&#039;t emotionally allow yourself to be punished over his choices.

Sometimes, when men move on from their wives, they can divorce the kids which come from that union to start a new life, sometimes women with this personality disorder can be the same way. 

Don&#039;t take it personally, it really has nothing to do with you, just like when a persons spouse cheats, sometimes it&#039;s just that a person has no control due to addictive personalites, or no self respect; therefore, they don&#039;t have the ability to predict how their actions will psychologically and spiritually harm their families. 

Also, some are highly aware of what they do, and simply don&#039;t care - hard for some to accept or believe, but that is just how it is out there in the world with many people.

Try your best to go on with your own life, and if the pain still haunts you, do everthing in your power to research the personality types mentioned above. By doing so, you will become empowered, and hopefully not fall victim to this with your own relationship or kids in the future!

Trust no one, but choose wisely and carefully, be very picky as to whom you allow in your intimate space and never rush or allow yourself to be rushed, because you have the power to make a choice, and if someone can&#039;t take their time and wait for you to feel they have proven themselves to you first, then Run! 

Of course, that bad man may leave you first(which would mean doing you a favor), before there is ever a remote chance of kids being involved, a great way to weed out undesirable mates (the Sociopath or Narcissist). 

Don&#039;t ever approach a relationship or anything for that matter with emotions. For a better chance at happiness to protect yourself in the future, remember, a Sociopathic parent has no empathy for &quot;anything&quot;, so don&#039;t take it personally!

Most women with absent fathers or fathers with this personality are at &quot;high&quot; risk for attracting the same types of men, due to not having a good male role model, yet, sometimes, even girls from homes with devoted fathers can fall victim to a Sociopathic personality, because the seem genuine, sincere and interested in your well-being only in the beginning, and they come in so many forms too, from all walks and levels of life, they are everywhere, so be careful!

Best wishes to you and may you achieve peace and happiness in your life&#039;s journey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ polly #31, My advice to you is to go online and google, &#8220;Sociopath&#8221;, or NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder). This may help you understand the type of person your father is, and help you on your road to healing. He obviously is very disconnected and cannot bond with you. </p>
<p>Anyone can reproduce and make a baby, but actually deciding to parent them is an entirely separate issue. You may  not realize it, but your dad may be doing you a big favor by not being in your life, because if he was a devoted, good influence, he would have been present for you. </p>
<p>This does not make you less of a person, although many kids feel that way for life once a parent ignores them. Don&#8217;t be angry with him, just keep going, because that&#8217;s the only choice you have. He is who he is and it&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p> He was not a parent, but only a sperm donor. There are many people who walk in your shoes out there, this is very common, and I am not excusing it either, but want to say, don&#8217;t emotionally allow yourself to be punished over his choices.</p>
<p>Sometimes, when men move on from their wives, they can divorce the kids which come from that union to start a new life, sometimes women with this personality disorder can be the same way. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take it personally, it really has nothing to do with you, just like when a persons spouse cheats, sometimes it&#8217;s just that a person has no control due to addictive personalites, or no self respect; therefore, they don&#8217;t have the ability to predict how their actions will psychologically and spiritually harm their families. </p>
<p>Also, some are highly aware of what they do, and simply don&#8217;t care &#8211; hard for some to accept or believe, but that is just how it is out there in the world with many people.</p>
<p>Try your best to go on with your own life, and if the pain still haunts you, do everthing in your power to research the personality types mentioned above. By doing so, you will become empowered, and hopefully not fall victim to this with your own relationship or kids in the future!</p>
<p>Trust no one, but choose wisely and carefully, be very picky as to whom you allow in your intimate space and never rush or allow yourself to be rushed, because you have the power to make a choice, and if someone can&#8217;t take their time and wait for you to feel they have proven themselves to you first, then Run! </p>
<p>Of course, that bad man may leave you first(which would mean doing you a favor), before there is ever a remote chance of kids being involved, a great way to weed out undesirable mates (the Sociopath or Narcissist). </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ever approach a relationship or anything for that matter with emotions. For a better chance at happiness to protect yourself in the future, remember, a Sociopathic parent has no empathy for &#8220;anything&#8221;, so don&#8217;t take it personally!</p>
<p>Most women with absent fathers or fathers with this personality are at &#8220;high&#8221; risk for attracting the same types of men, due to not having a good male role model, yet, sometimes, even girls from homes with devoted fathers can fall victim to a Sociopathic personality, because the seem genuine, sincere and interested in your well-being only in the beginning, and they come in so many forms too, from all walks and levels of life, they are everywhere, so be careful!</p>
<p>Best wishes to you and may you achieve peace and happiness in your life&#8217;s journey!</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://www.divorcewithoutdishonor.com/2008/02/06/a-childs-response-to-her-absent-father/comment-page-1/#comment-796</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Will,

I don&#039;t know &quot;Beth&quot; personally, but heard of her a long time ago, and even though I don&#039;t know her, I wish I could wave a magic wand before her and erase, every bit of terror, pain and fear she has experienced at the hands of her husband. I also hope she is well hidden. When I found out about her situation I wanted to reach out to that poor woman and tell her &quot;I know&quot;, exactly what an upside down hell, she must have experienced at the hands of M, living in fear and silence about it for so long..She is extremely lucky to still be alive today, but after reading the court reports on google, it is to my belief the time was getting close that her life was about to come to an end at the hands of her husband. I am so glad she went to the emergency room to get help because I am convinced she would not be here in the world to be with her kids, had there not been some type of outside intervention after that horrible event.

 T and M&#039;s mother has a unique way of gathering support for these guys each time they do something dangerous, and it is sad and frightening, does she not realize she as well as other family and community members who get involved can be in danger too???. I feel bad for the all the victims of T &amp; M, having to watch this go on and experience it, I would not even wish it on my worst enemy. I have seen another person so devastated, shaken, and confused after nearly being beaten and strangled to death by T, and also, never seeing life the same after bearing witness to guys like T who transorm into monsters, it is indescribable, mental illness is an understatement when these guys go into a rage. They are both a very, very, and I need to stress VERY, serious threat to society. There are no words to describe such a frightening encounter with these people. My heart goes out to all who have had the misfortune crossing paths with T or M.

All the women, who have had intimate relationships with Tomas or Miguel will never be the same. Ever! Your mind will be messed up and your trust in people and the system will sink, because they are masters at playing the system/courts (master manipulators) and influencing others that their victims are responsible for their terror and brutal physical assaults, psychological mind games, harrassment and stalking behaviors, etc.,.

I understand a mothers need to help her sons, but with a long history, there must be a point where one should give it up, and stop enabling them to become worse, because it is obvious that they are getting worse as they get older, and their conditions are very serious. Devastatingly so.

If anyone else has been victimized, nearly lost their lives or know about their history, or know of others who have suffered and their lives have not been the same after knowing these guys feel free to vent or just mention oddities of their characters at the email given at the end of this statement below.

Every victim of Tomas Mayzes has been kept in the dark about his long past criminal records, by his mother and the police, and he wins jury trials each time he harms women (people in general), with the help of his mother and her talent for gathering strong community support, they are all in danger for helping these guys roam free, the community at large is in danger. 
When will people learn and get a clue??

These guys T &amp; M, can say some really weird  verbal stuff to their victims, they can make the room seem to spin with the amount of psychological venom they spew out, before, during and after an attack.

If you see these guys RUNNNNNN!
There must be so many people out there who have suffered at the hands of these men. 

Will, I would love to hear from you;)

email: stoppercrime87@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Will,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know &#8220;Beth&#8221; personally, but heard of her a long time ago, and even though I don&#8217;t know her, I wish I could wave a magic wand before her and erase, every bit of terror, pain and fear she has experienced at the hands of her husband. I also hope she is well hidden. When I found out about her situation I wanted to reach out to that poor woman and tell her &#8220;I know&#8221;, exactly what an upside down hell, she must have experienced at the hands of M, living in fear and silence about it for so long..She is extremely lucky to still be alive today, but after reading the court reports on google, it is to my belief the time was getting close that her life was about to come to an end at the hands of her husband. I am so glad she went to the emergency room to get help because I am convinced she would not be here in the world to be with her kids, had there not been some type of outside intervention after that horrible event.</p>
<p> T and M&#8217;s mother has a unique way of gathering support for these guys each time they do something dangerous, and it is sad and frightening, does she not realize she as well as other family and community members who get involved can be in danger too???. I feel bad for the all the victims of T &amp; M, having to watch this go on and experience it, I would not even wish it on my worst enemy. I have seen another person so devastated, shaken, and confused after nearly being beaten and strangled to death by T, and also, never seeing life the same after bearing witness to guys like T who transorm into monsters, it is indescribable, mental illness is an understatement when these guys go into a rage. They are both a very, very, and I need to stress VERY, serious threat to society. There are no words to describe such a frightening encounter with these people. My heart goes out to all who have had the misfortune crossing paths with T or M.</p>
<p>All the women, who have had intimate relationships with Tomas or Miguel will never be the same. Ever! Your mind will be messed up and your trust in people and the system will sink, because they are masters at playing the system/courts (master manipulators) and influencing others that their victims are responsible for their terror and brutal physical assaults, psychological mind games, harrassment and stalking behaviors, etc.,.</p>
<p>I understand a mothers need to help her sons, but with a long history, there must be a point where one should give it up, and stop enabling them to become worse, because it is obvious that they are getting worse as they get older, and their conditions are very serious. Devastatingly so.</p>
<p>If anyone else has been victimized, nearly lost their lives or know about their history, or know of others who have suffered and their lives have not been the same after knowing these guys feel free to vent or just mention oddities of their characters at the email given at the end of this statement below.</p>
<p>Every victim of Tomas Mayzes has been kept in the dark about his long past criminal records, by his mother and the police, and he wins jury trials each time he harms women (people in general), with the help of his mother and her talent for gathering strong community support, they are all in danger for helping these guys roam free, the community at large is in danger.<br />
When will people learn and get a clue??</p>
<p>These guys T &amp; M, can say some really weird  verbal stuff to their victims, they can make the room seem to spin with the amount of psychological venom they spew out, before, during and after an attack.</p>
<p>If you see these guys RUNNNNNN!<br />
There must be so many people out there who have suffered at the hands of these men. </p>
<p>Will, I would love to hear from you;)</p>
<p>email: <a href="mailto:stoppercrime87@yahoo.com">stoppercrime87@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://www.divorcewithoutdishonor.com/2008/02/06/a-childs-response-to-her-absent-father/comment-page-1/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Sunshine&quot; posts..
Tomas is currently again, and has repeated this for more than a decade now, &quot;in custody&quot; for inflicting corporal injury on a cohabitant/spouse, his attacks involve violent intimidation, extreme corporal injury, strangulation, stalking and disturbing behavior, just the same as his brother Miguel. Also, there is something listed on the Santa Rita jail inmate information post regarding Human trafficking as well, in his most recent arrest, apparently he was taken into custody on a DA Warrant according to the online post. There is a court date scheduled for Nov. 30, 09 in Hayward, Ca for his hearing. I swear that man is going to kill someone one of these days, everytime I hear of a murdered woman in the East Bay, I check to see if it was him who did it..Scary stuff! There are quite a few women out there who live in fear of these guys.

For anyone with further questions send email to: stoppercrime87@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Sunshine&#8221; posts..<br />
Tomas is currently again, and has repeated this for more than a decade now, &#8220;in custody&#8221; for inflicting corporal injury on a cohabitant/spouse, his attacks involve violent intimidation, extreme corporal injury, strangulation, stalking and disturbing behavior, just the same as his brother Miguel. Also, there is something listed on the Santa Rita jail inmate information post regarding Human trafficking as well, in his most recent arrest, apparently he was taken into custody on a DA Warrant according to the online post. There is a court date scheduled for Nov. 30, 09 in Hayward, Ca for his hearing. I swear that man is going to kill someone one of these days, everytime I hear of a murdered woman in the East Bay, I check to see if it was him who did it..Scary stuff! There are quite a few women out there who live in fear of these guys.</p>
<p>For anyone with further questions send email to: <a href="mailto:stoppercrime87@yahoo.com">stoppercrime87@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: femmefatale</title>
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		<dc:creator>femmefatale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep seeing excuses in all these comments. My childrens father up and decided one day that he didnt have time for them. He was going to school and working part time. He said he didnt have time for the kids. I went to college full time and worked 2 jobs while raising my kids. If you want to be there you can be there. Go to court if the mother wont let you see the child. He hasnt even picked up the phone to the call the kids cause he claims hes to busy for that too. Thats why so many women have to play both roles and take the harder toll. We have to come up with the answers to questions when the kids ask where daddy is, we have to comfort their tears when they miss him. Its when they decide to be a daddy that the child wont want a daddy anymore and all hope at a relationship will be gone. Because those kids will see for their own eyes what is truly going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep seeing excuses in all these comments. My childrens father up and decided one day that he didnt have time for them. He was going to school and working part time. He said he didnt have time for the kids. I went to college full time and worked 2 jobs while raising my kids. If you want to be there you can be there. Go to court if the mother wont let you see the child. He hasnt even picked up the phone to the call the kids cause he claims hes to busy for that too. Thats why so many women have to play both roles and take the harder toll. We have to come up with the answers to questions when the kids ask where daddy is, we have to comfort their tears when they miss him. Its when they decide to be a daddy that the child wont want a daddy anymore and all hope at a relationship will be gone. Because those kids will see for their own eyes what is truly going on.</p>
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